Herb Jeffries' Interview About Yogananda

By Ram Smith

Herb Jeffries, the famous singer, and once member of the Duke Ellington Band, said the following about the time he spent with Paramhansa Yogananda in the following interview:

The Lake Shrine was my favorite place. I used to meet Yogananda down there all the time. I’d watched him swim. Then, when he got out of the lake, I noticed in awe how the fish use to follow him around.

I was once sitting with Yoganandaji in his room at Mount Washington at the headquarters of the Self-Realization Fellowship. We had a beautiful view of the distance hills and mountains. Guruiji was talking to me in his wonderful little voice. I was sitting on the floor listening to him. I had been with him for a year by then and I started thinking aloud, “I’ve been here a year, why don’t you do something. Something miraculous like walking across the swimming pool or something?"

I wanted to see something!As I mentally thought this, Guruji responded to my mental questioning, “Ah, what do you want to do boy? You want to see a Ten Cent Store trick?"

Yoganandaji continued to speak to Herb in the following way:
“Suppose I take this incense burner and I take my hand away. You’ll see this thing levitating before you. This is a miraculous thing? No, we don’t want to do Ten Cent Store trick!”

“Suppose I take this table. It’s a larger object, therefore a greater phenomenon. Ah, we don’t want to do a Ten-Cent store trick.

“Suppose we take this room we are sitting in and let it rise like a elevator. It’s a larger object, therefore greater phenomenon. Ah, we don’t want those Ten Cent Store tricks.

“Look out the window and see that mountain. Suppose I take this mountain, lifting up this mountain and let it rise up into the air from the horizon. It’s a greater object and therefore a great, great, great phenomenon. Ah, we don’t want a Ten Cent Store trick.

“Now, let suppose we take this planet earth, 25,000 miles in circumference. And I make it levitate in the firmament. No strings to hold it up, levitating! You see what I mean boy? Why then, do you want me to do a Ten Center Store trick with this incense burner?"

“We make a big thing out of levitation and yet we see the sun, the stars, and all the planets out there levitating. Yet, we don’t want to believe in the power of levitation.”

Herb makes his comments here about Master's levitation lesson:
We are looking for phenomenon and yet the stars and planets levitate before us and we don’t see the mystery of life.

Every time you meditate you loose a sense of gravity, because you go into a space where God lives. And God knows no time or space. If he knows not time or space he knows not gravity. So, when you go to the avatars, and they know how to reverse their polarity, because they know we are all atomical being. We are the electric Man – man/woman – Mindkind.

So, when you meditate you go into the space where there is a timelessness. If you go into space of timelessness for one hour in the morning and for one hour at night, that’s two hours a day, multiply that by 365 days out the year, then you’ve got 730 hours. Divide that by 24 hours in a day and that is about 30 days out the year that you are meditating and you have not aged.

So if you want to stop the aging process, you want to find that space where you can slow it down. The more you meditate, the more you slow down the aging process.

That is one part of process. But if you take care of this body, you’ll realize that you are what you eat. If you look into the Bible, God says “I’ve given you all the herbs and vegetation for thy meat. He didn’t say anything about flesh.”“I don’t eat much anymore. I eat very little. I don’t seem to eat much anymore. As we vintage, it is old. We vintage. The best wines are vintage. The best cheese is vintage. And try to buy some vintage furniture. It is very precious and costly. So as we vintage, we don’t require food to eat so much when we sustained more by spiritual means.

Most people go to church because they have a problem and they hope that it will be relieved in some way. As long as we know, all of us are human beings, we have some sort of problem then we can try and cure it.

The biggest problem that we are facing on this earth right now is that this earth is suffering from a nervous breakdown. So, it is with us, and people who are into these practices of meditation like us, it is our purpose to sit in our meditation. In our meditations, we are going be able to do some powerful things. Meditation is much like a micro-wave. We pass it from one another on to the other. Eventually we’ll be able to saturate this planet with this kind of thought where no power can do any harm to it.

So, what we must do is to think of ourselves, now, like a scientific laboratory of the highest science there is on the face of this earth. Yoga is higher than any science there is. For that reason, remember the importance of meditation. It is so important!

When I went to Yoganandaji for my illness, I had injuries from a plane crash. I had three herniated disc in the spine. I was in serious trouble. When I was recovering from the accident, I read “Autobiography of a Yogi”. I had gone to doctors and doctors to get relief with pain killers, muscle relaxers, and drugs to help my pain. I wasn’t getting to much results from it. Then, they were going to send me to a Phoenix Hospital for a triple laminectamy. At this particular point, I read his book and thought I should meet this guy. I don’t want to go to the hospital. People were dying from that operation in those days. In my desperation, I thought I should give Yogananda a try.

So, I got on a train in Detroit, Michigan where I was recovering and went to Los Angeles. The earliest story of seeing him comes to mind where I was pleading with a nun at Mt. Washington, “I must see him! I must see him!” Although I didn’t have a schedule appointment, Yogananda saw me and advised me to do a few things to relieve the pain. Within less then a year, of following Yogananda’s instructions, my spine with fused together and I was healed. It’s true!

I’ll show you something. This morning, when I was leaving to come to Los Angeles to do that show at the Gene Autry Museum, my wife accidentally touched my arm with an iron. She was ironing a shirt and burned me. But look at it now. There is hardly anything there. See!

I’m showing you this because if you keep your body and mind in the right condition, you can heal yourself naturally. Right eating and meditation has a lot to do with it. For example, staying away from red meat is very important. Red meats hold a lot of toxins. When you kill an animal, it holds toxins from the fear generated at the time of slaughter. So, if you want to heal yourself, naturally, stay away from red meats and meditate.

She touched me with the bottom of that iron this morning. There is no burn blister there now. That doesn’t make me anybody special. It just shows the benefit of following the techniques, or discipline, Yogananda taught.

Why do you think, Guruiji’s body was left in such a perfect state of preservation after his passing? Because his body was so pure! It was pure because he had rid himself of all the karma. A guru, a master, can take on karma from his disciple, or chela, because his karma is so pure. He can throw it off.

There was even a case of Sai Baba, that I heard about in Putta Parti, India, where rumor had it that it suffered a heart attack. But when he came out onto a terrace of his apartment to greet people one day, he said, “I’m ok, but if the fellow who was meant to have this heart attack received it, as he was destined to receive by his karma, then he would have died. I took the heart attack from him.”

People are so quick to call some types of progressive teachings “a cult.” This frightens certain people away. But, we must have the courage to be able to take the criticism and sufferings that come with it in order for us to progress in this science.

There is recently published book entitled, Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus. I want to say that you don’t have to worry about that, as long as your are a yogi. Because, yoga even takes away that form of discrimination. You macho guys out there, you don’t need to deny the feminine, but embrace it. We are all one.

St Francis of Assisi, represents a message of “brother sun and sister moon.” You see I’m wearing the Tau symbol of St. Francis around my neck. It is symbolic of the in the masculine and famine nature of man, the sun and moon. In this way we must create balance within ourselves and get into with the Mother. We all have a Mother. Let us embrace, the God as the Mother of us all.

Ok, I am going to depend upon you, at this meeting we’ve had this evening, to take this message to heart. Go deep within yourself and search for the answers. The answers are there. It’s called, “INFORMATION.” As far as it is the cosmos, in it’s infinitude, so it is inside of you. In order for it to be equal, the space that is out there has to be in here, within you. So, inside of us is as just as infinite, as it is out there.

So I depend upon you in the name of our teachers, Paramhansa Yogananda and Swami Kriyananda, that we pass this information onto others. We must discuss it with each other and maintain this bond. Because the more we discuss it, the more we bond. The bond will bring us into one unit into oneness, like a drop of water that falls from the sky and touches the ocean. It becomes all the waves that touch its surface and all the sand that touches its shores. We become the one, in the whole once again. This is our science.

Remember, the wiser a man becomes, the more he knows, the little he knows. I hope that God, Guruji, Christ and the great saints allow us to meet again.

Herb Jefferies sings a song he wrote, dedicated to Master entitled, Man on Top of the Hill.

There in a City, a beautiful city,
High on the top of a hill,
Lived a stranger with patience.
Who taught about patience and taught about love of His Will.
He spoke about loving, of loving each other.
He said for this reason he’d die.
Like flesh didn’t matter, like rags didn’t matter, what matters the most, is inside.
Way Deep down in the middle of your heart,
Make a flame to light the dark.
Way Deep down in the middle of your heart,
There’s a flame that lights the spark.
Makes you loose that heavy weight.
Makes you burn away the hate.
Way Deep down in the middle of your heart.
There in a city, a beautiful city,
Some where in the old Himalay,
The people were kneeling, to hope for the feeling,
And the stranger stole softly away.
Way down deep in the middle of your heart.

For more on Herb Jefferies check his website: www.herbjeffries.com




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