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Herb
Jeffries' Interview About Yogananda
By Ram Smith
Herb Jeffries,
the famous singer, and once member of the Duke Ellington Band, said
the following about the time he spent with Paramhansa Yogananda
in the following interview:
The Lake Shrine was my favorite place. I used to meet Yogananda
down there all the time. Id watched him swim. Then, when he
got out of the lake, I noticed in awe how the fish use to follow
him around.
I
was once sitting with Yoganandaji in his room at Mount Washington
at the headquarters of the Self-Realization Fellowship. We had a
beautiful view of the distance hills and mountains. Guruiji was
talking to me in his wonderful little voice. I was sitting on the
floor listening to him. I had been with him for a year by then and
I started thinking aloud, Ive been here a year, why
dont you do something. Something miraculous like walking across
the swimming pool or something?"
I
wanted to see something!As
I mentally thought this, Guruji responded to my mental questioning,
Ah, what do you want to do boy? You want to see a Ten Cent
Store trick?"
Yoganandaji
continued to speak to Herb in the following way:
Suppose
I take this incense burner and I take my hand away. Youll
see this thing levitating before you. This is a miraculous thing?
No, we dont want to do Ten Cent Store trick!
Suppose
I take this table. Its a larger object, therefore a greater
phenomenon. Ah, we dont want to do a Ten-Cent store trick.
Suppose
we take this room we are sitting in and let it rise like a elevator.
Its a larger object, therefore greater phenomenon. Ah, we
dont want those Ten Cent Store tricks.
Look
out the window and see that mountain. Suppose I take this mountain,
lifting up this mountain and let it rise up into the air from the
horizon. Its a greater object and therefore a great, great,
great phenomenon. Ah, we dont want a Ten Cent Store trick.
Now,
let suppose we take this planet earth, 25,000 miles in circumference.
And I make it levitate in the firmament. No strings to hold it up,
levitating! You see what I mean boy? Why then, do you want me to
do a Ten Center Store trick with this incense burner?"
We
make a big thing out of levitation and yet we see the sun, the stars,
and all the planets out there levitating. Yet, we dont want
to believe in the power of levitation.
Herb
makes his comments here about Master's levitation lesson:
We are looking for phenomenon and yet the stars and planets levitate
before us and we dont see the mystery of life.
Every
time you meditate you loose a sense of gravity, because you go into
a space where God lives. And God knows no time or space. If he knows
not time or space he knows not gravity. So, when you go to the avatars,
and they know how to reverse their polarity, because they know we
are all atomical being. We are the electric Man man/woman
Mindkind.
So,
when you meditate you go into the space where there is a timelessness.
If you go into space of timelessness for one hour in the morning
and for one hour at night, thats two hours a day, multiply
that by 365 days out the year, then youve got 730 hours. Divide
that by 24 hours in a day and that is about 30 days out the year
that you are meditating and you have not aged.
So
if you want to stop the aging process, you want to find that space
where you can slow it down. The more you meditate, the more you
slow down the aging process.
That
is one part of process. But if you take care of this body, youll
realize that you are what you eat. If you look into the Bible, God
says Ive given you all the herbs and vegetation for
thy meat. He didnt say anything about flesh.I
dont eat much anymore. I eat very little. I dont seem
to eat much anymore. As we vintage, it is old. We vintage. The best
wines are vintage. The best cheese is vintage. And try to buy some
vintage furniture. It is very precious and costly. So as we vintage,
we dont require food to eat so much when we sustained more
by spiritual means.
Most
people go to church because they have a problem and they hope that
it will be relieved in some way. As long as we know, all of us are
human beings, we have some sort of problem then we can try and cure
it.
The
biggest problem that we are facing on this earth right now is that
this earth is suffering from a nervous breakdown. So, it is with
us, and people who are into these practices of meditation like us,
it is our purpose to sit in our meditation. In our meditations,
we are going be able to do some powerful things. Meditation is much
like a micro-wave. We pass it from one another on to the other.
Eventually well be able to saturate this planet with this
kind of thought where no power can do any harm to it.
So, what we must do is to think of ourselves, now, like a scientific
laboratory of the highest science there is on the face of this earth.
Yoga is higher than any science there is. For that reason, remember
the importance of meditation. It is so important!
When
I went to Yoganandaji for my illness, I had injuries from a plane
crash. I had three herniated disc in the spine. I was in serious
trouble. When I was recovering from the accident, I read Autobiography
of a Yogi. I had gone to doctors and doctors to get relief
with pain killers, muscle relaxers, and drugs to help my pain. I
wasnt getting to much results from it. Then, they were going
to send me to a Phoenix Hospital for a triple laminectamy. At this
particular point, I read his book and thought I should meet this
guy. I dont want to go to the hospital. People were dying
from that operation in those days. In my desperation, I thought
I should give Yogananda a try.
So,
I got on a train in Detroit, Michigan where I was recovering and
went to Los Angeles. The earliest story of seeing him comes to mind
where I was pleading with a nun at Mt. Washington, I must
see him! I must see him! Although I didnt have a schedule
appointment, Yogananda saw me and advised me to do a few things
to relieve the pain. Within less then a year, of following Yoganandas
instructions, my spine with fused together and I was healed. Its
true!
Ill
show you something. This morning, when I was leaving to come to
Los Angeles to do that show at the Gene Autry Museum, my wife accidentally
touched my arm with an iron. She was ironing a shirt and burned
me. But look at it now. There is hardly anything there. See!
Im
showing you this because if you keep your body and mind in the right
condition, you can heal yourself naturally. Right eating and meditation
has a lot to do with it. For example, staying away from red meat
is very important. Red meats hold a lot of toxins. When you kill
an animal, it holds toxins from the fear generated at the time of
slaughter. So, if you want to heal yourself, naturally, stay away
from red meats and meditate.
She
touched me with the bottom of that iron this morning. There is no
burn blister there now. That doesnt make me anybody special.
It just shows the benefit of following the techniques, or discipline,
Yogananda taught.
Why
do you think, Guruijis body was left in such a perfect state
of preservation after his passing? Because his body was so pure!
It was pure because he had rid himself of all the karma. A guru,
a master, can take on karma from his disciple, or chela, because
his karma is so pure. He can throw it off.
There
was even a case of Sai Baba, that I heard about in Putta Parti,
India, where rumor had it that it suffered a heart attack. But when
he came out onto a terrace of his apartment to greet people one
day, he said, Im ok, but if the fellow who was meant
to have this heart attack received it, as he was destined to receive
by his karma, then he would have died. I took the heart attack from
him.
People are so quick to call some types of progressive teachings
a cult. This frightens certain people away. But, we
must have the courage to be able to take the criticism and sufferings
that come with it in order for us to progress in this science.
There
is recently published book entitled, Men are from Mars and Women
are from Venus. I want to say that you dont have to worry
about that, as long as your are a yogi. Because, yoga even takes
away that form of discrimination. You macho guys out there, you
dont need to deny the feminine, but embrace it. We are all
one.
St
Francis of Assisi, represents a message of brother sun and
sister moon. You see Im wearing the Tau symbol of St.
Francis around my neck. It is symbolic of the in the masculine and
famine nature of man, the sun and moon. In this way we must create
balance within ourselves and get into with the Mother. We all have
a Mother. Let us embrace, the God as the Mother of us all.
Ok,
I am going to depend upon you, at this meeting weve had this
evening, to take this message to heart. Go deep within yourself
and search for the answers. The answers are there. Its called,
INFORMATION. As far as it is the cosmos, in its
infinitude, so it is inside of you. In order for it to be equal,
the space that is out there has to be in here, within you. So, inside
of us is as just as infinite, as it is out there.
So
I depend upon you in the name of our teachers, Paramhansa Yogananda
and Swami Kriyananda, that we pass this information onto others.
We must discuss it with each other and maintain this bond. Because
the more we discuss it, the more we bond. The bond will bring us
into one unit into oneness, like a drop of water that falls from
the sky and touches the ocean. It becomes all the waves that touch
its surface and all the sand that touches its shores. We become
the one, in the whole once again. This is our science.
Remember,
the wiser a man becomes, the more he knows, the little he knows.
I hope that God, Guruji, Christ and the great saints allow us to
meet again.
Herb
Jefferies sings a song he wrote, dedicated to Master entitled, Man
on Top of the Hill.
There
in a City, a beautiful city,
High on the top of a hill,
Lived a stranger with patience.
Who taught about patience and taught about love of His Will.
He spoke about loving, of loving each other.
He said for this reason hed die.
Like flesh didnt matter, like rags didnt matter, what
matters the most, is inside.
Way Deep down in the middle of your heart,
Make a flame to light the dark.
Way Deep down in the middle of your heart,
Theres a flame that lights the spark.
Makes you loose that heavy weight.
Makes you burn away the hate.
Way Deep down in the middle of your heart.
There in a city, a beautiful city,
Some where in the old Himalay,
The people were kneeling, to hope for the feeling,
And the stranger stole softly away.
Way down deep in the middle of your heart.
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